Ye walks out of Timcast IRL interview

Other guests who left with West are controversial right wing commentators Nick Fuentes and Milo Yiannopoulos.

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Sparks flew on Monday’s episode of Timcast IRL, a podcast hosted by former investigative journalist and political commentator Tim Pool, when guests Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, right-wing personality Milo Yiannopoulos, and contrarian internet troll Nick Fuentes left the show roughly 20 minutes in after a disagreement during the discussion.

The podcast started with a sense of anticipation, certainly for the show’s host, as this was undoubtedly his most high-profile interview to date. With big news of the fact that his three guests had a sit-down with Donald Trump over dinner to discuss — and Ye’s polarization in general — they did indeed have much to discuss.

Despite Pool’s attempts to guide the discussion in the direction he wanted it to go, Ye very quickly hijacked the discussion to talk about how he had been wronged in recent months by former business partners and the media for speaking out about Jewish influence, naming names such as Hollywood trainer Harley Pasternak, who he accused of being a deep-state agent of some sort. He also named JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, and a designer from Adidas named ‘Gabby’, who Ye alleged was a CIA agent, as members in the conspiracy against him.

"It was like American History X, like my head was on the side of the curb, and the exact people I called out kicked my head," said Ye, relating his experiences to the infamous curbstomping scene from the 1998 movie of the same name.”

With a mostly uninterrupted diatribe, Ye hit on all the topics that seemed to plague his thoughts, discussing how he had $75 million holds on 4 of his bank accounts due to the IRS saying he owes them $50 million and he is potentially facing jail time as a result. He also alleged that presidents like Barack Obama and Donald Trump had Jewish handlers to control them during their presidencies. It’s nothing that anyone who has seen Ye’s interviews in recent months would be surprised by, though.

His interview with Lex Fridman, who gave Ye significant pushback against his assertions of a monolithic Jewish conspiracy, likely inspired Ye to tell Pool in the outset of the interview that he would walk off if he felt like he was going to be scolded and told he’s wrong for feeling the way he does about these subjects. This began to cause tension to mount in the room.

A brief pause in Ye’s diatribe allowed Pool to jump back into the discussion.

"I think they've been extremely unfair to you." Pool said.

"Who is they, though? We can't say who 'they' is, can we?" Ye countered, wanting Pool to clarify his statement.

"The corporate press. I don't use the word [they] the way - I guess - you guys use [it]," was Pool's tepid response, which inspired Nick Fuentes to jump in, revealing just why he was now allowed to be in Ye's company with his response.

"It is them though, isn't it? I mean, because when you think about it, consider it, in 2018 -" Fuentes was interrupted by Pool offering a separate, more forceful refusal of acknowledgement that Jews operate in a monolithic manner, which seemed to get Ye's hackles up considerably.

"What do you mean it's not?" Ye says incredulously, referring again to 'they' being a codeword for jews despite Pool's opposition to the notion. Before Pool could stammer out a response, Ye departed from the room with Pool watching him the whole way and asking, "You leavin'?" as he left.

A short time after this, Milo and Fuentes departed the room to 'check' on Kanye, leaving just Tim Pool and his co-host Luke Rudkowski of WeAreChange.org to their own devices.

The rest of the show after this point is basically an extended session of damage control and complaining that I didn't really care to watch after the guests I tuned in to see had departed. It didn’t behoove me to stay for the filler merely filling the rest of the 2-hour run-time that Timcast IRL typically occupies with the airing of grievances. Frank Costanza would be proud.

Fans of Timcast IRL are notably split on the matter, and many have taken to dogpiling the host for trying to obfuscate things that Ye was saying in an attempt to spare his channel from what would almost certainly have resulted in a strike against it. This has also inspired former fans who were slighted by the removal of Pool’s former co-host, Adam Crigler, from the show, to use this incident with Ye as further proof of Pool’s inherent narcissism.

I think the clue demonstrating Tim Pool’s narcissism is in the name of his channels, company, and podcast.

But seriously, you have to be just a little bit narcissistic to believe that Ye and Milo coordinated some kind of hit on him just to hurt his business, as Tim Pool alleged during a ‘morning-after’ video where he discussed the incident on his Monday night podcast. That’s a bridge too far, in my opinion.

In a follow-up video on Tuesday, Tim Pool implied that his guests may have staged the whole thing.

"I think this was... staged. Maybe by Ye. But I don't know. I think Milo is a very, very smart guy. I said before I think he's a genius because I'm looking at what's going on. And I either have to assume that Milo is orchestrating some powerful vengeance, or he slipped on a banana peel, did a perfect backflip, and then said 'ta-da!'. Whatever that means.

He goes on to talk about his theories on the matter, but his longwinded nature dilutes any point he was trying to make, except that he keeps insisting that Ye and Milo, for some reason, picked his podcast out of a lineup to screw him over specifically.

For a man who doesn’t believe a shadowy conspiracy could be behind what’s happening to people like Ye and Kyrie Irving, Pool sure is quick to invent a scenario where he’s the victim of a shadowy conspiracy himself.

The simple explanation for what went down is most likely that Ye didn’t take kindly to Pool preparing to brow-beat him the way that Lex Fridman had done for saying controversial things in a previous interview, so Ye opted out of continuing with the interview and left.

Ye is also intimately aware that his every move gets massive press, so if it was intentional to walk off the show for that purpose, he succeeded. It’s a bit short-sighted to think anyone knows exactly what the results of their actions would be, though. So I don’t believe Ye planned for this exact thing to happen. Or Milo Yiannopoulos, for that matter.

Anyone with that level of foresight should have trillions of dollars in net worth by now.

As for the controversies themselves, who cares? I certainly don’t. I think there are way more important things to focus on than a rapper’s comments about Jews. It very much pales in comparison to the American aristocracy raping and pillaging our future for their own immediate personal gain, in my mind. But I digress.

I don’t agree that any subject is off-the-table and shouldn’t be discussed, no matter who it hurts, including myself.

When we grant anyone the authority to dictate what subjects cannot be discussed, we open ourselves up to losing the very right to question anything.